Jochen Gebauer hat geschrieben: ↑12. Apr 2023, 22:25
Blaight hat geschrieben: ↑12. Apr 2023, 20:15und @Jochen
Wenn Du schreibst, dass Deine Hausarbeit ja nur eine Person lese und damit der Nutzen des Genderns nicht erfüllt sei, sondern eine Umerziehung, dann möchte ich zumindest als Argument anführen, dass nicht nur diejenigen profitieren könnten, die das lesen, sonder auch Du selbst bei Schreiben, weil Du den eigenen Denk-Biases des generischen Maskulins dabei entgehst
Moment. Ich sagte nicht Umerziehung, sondern Erziehung. Umerziehung hat eine sehr hässliche Konnotation, die ich bewusst nicht gewählt habe.
Und ja, das was du beschreibst, klingt für mich sehr wie eine erzieherische (oder sagen wir: pädagogische) Maßnahme. Fair. Ich finde es lediglich fehl am Platz, bei einer Arbeit über die Bedeutung der Farbe weiß in Moby Dick meinen Denk-Bias des generischen Maskulins zu verarbeiten. Das ist imho nicht der richtige Ort dafür.
Ja hast recht, Umerziehung bedeutet wirklich was anderes. Entschuldige, das wollte ich Dir nicht in den Mund legen.
Ist die Prämisse bei Moby Dick überhaupt anwendbar? Es geht hier ja um eine männliche Schiffsbesatzung und einen Walbullen? Was ich meine: wieviele
generische Maskulini (plural?) setzt man denn überhaupt ein auf 14 Seiten über die Farbe Weiß in MB?
Ich hab mal Chat GPT gefragt:
Prompt: I need an interpretation of the color white in Moby Dick in regards to gender roles
CHATGPT:
In Moby Dick, the color white is often associated with purity, innocence, and divinity. However, its interpretation in regards to gender roles is more complex and can be understood in different ways.
On one hand, the color white is traditionally associated with femininity, particularly in Western cultures. Women are often expected to wear white clothing on special occasions, such as weddings or religious ceremonies. In this sense, the color white can be seen as symbolizing the idealized feminine qualities of purity and innocence.
On the other hand, in Moby Dick, the color white is also associated with masculinity, particularly in the context of whaling. The whaling industry, which is dominated by men, is characterized by its use of white whale oil, white harpoons, and white sails. White is also associated with the sperm whale, which is the object of Ahab's obsessive quest for revenge. Ahab's pursuit of the white whale is often interpreted as a metaphor for the masculine desire to conquer nature and assert dominance over the world.
Overall, the interpretation of the color white in Moby Dick in regards to gender roles is complex and multifaceted. While it is associated with traditional feminine qualities of purity and innocence, it is also linked to masculine ideals of conquest and dominance, particularly in the context of the whaling industry.
Prompt: are there female characters in Moby Dick?
Chat GPT:
While the majority of the characters in Moby Dick are male, there are a few female characters who appear in the novel. However, their roles are relatively minor.
One of the most prominent female characters is Charity, the sister of the innkeeper in Nantucket where Ishmael stays before joining the crew of the Pequod. She is described as a kind and charitable woman who provides Ishmael with a bed for the night.
Another female character who appears briefly is a young woman named Ruth who is encountered by Ishmael and Queequeg in the streets of New Bedford. She is portrayed as a modest and virtuous woman who is willing to offer assistance to the two sailors.
A third female character who appears later in the novel is the wife of Captain Ahab. However, she only appears briefly in a single chapter, and her name is not mentioned. Her role is limited to providing a glimpse into Ahab's personal life and his relationship with his family.
Overall, while there are a few female characters in Moby Dick, their roles are relatively minor, and the novel is primarily focused on the experiences of male characters.
Prompt: are these women connected to the color white in any way?
Chat GPT:
None of the female characters in Moby Dick are directly connected to the color white in any significant way. However, the color white is a dominant motif in the novel, and it is often associated with themes of purity, innocence, and transcendence. These themes are reflected in the descriptions of female characters such as Charity and Ruth, who are portrayed as modest, virtuous, and kind. Additionally, the color white is also associated with the whaling industry and the masculine world of the ship, which is dominated by men. As a result, the female characters in the novel are not necessarily associated with the color white in any overt way, but they do embody certain values and themes that are associated with the color white.
Ich denke, dass ich besonders sensibilisiert bin: Ich arbeite ja in medizinisch-wissenschaftlichen Bereich. Viele medizinische Erkenntnisse basieren auf Studien, mit starken Gender-Bias. Frauen wurden aus Studien entfernt, weil deren Werte die Daten "verfälschten" - und dann wurden die Frauen wie Männer behandelt. Ich arbeite speziell im Bereich der multiplen Sklerose, von der anteilsmäßig viel mehr Frauen als Männer betroffen sind. Daher lege ich gerade in meinen Mails an Health Care Provider viel Wert auf inklusive Sprache, um wenigstens ein bisschen diesem BIAS im Kopf zu widerstehen.